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Could Tipping's bid turn back clock for mounted police?

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Thursday, November 29, 2012
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FROM city centre riots to friendly school visits, the Notts Police mounted section was a symbol of law and order.

But with a controversial vote by Notts Police Authority at County Hall in June, it was banished into history.

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    Reprieve? New police and crime commissioner Paddy Tipping wants Notts police to think again about the decision to scrap the county's mounted section.

Now the new Notts police and crime commissioner has pressed for a review which could turn back the clock.

Paddy Tipping met Chief Constable Chris Eyre on Tuesday and asked the force to think again.

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Mr Tipping said: "The chief constable is going to put together a report on the costs of reintroduction.

"I've also asked him to look at operational value of the unit and whether there's the possibility of sharing the horses with other police forces and a review of sponsorship opportunities for them."

He added he expected the report to be finished by Christmas before he finalises his first budget in January. The police authority scrapped the unit – after the force said disbanding it would save £93,000 a year – despite a 2,000-name petition opposing it.

The police authority was effectively disbanded when Mr Tipping was elected to his new role on a Labour party ticket on November 16. As one of the UK's 41 commissioners, he is in charge of scrutinising the force and setting its budgets.

He is supported by a police and crime panel, chaired by John Clarke, leader of Gedling Borough Council and former authority member.

Mr Clarke, who opposed the scrapping of the unit and backed the petition, said: "I've got sympathy with the force and the cuts they have to make but the £90,000 was a drop in the ocean and they failed to listen to people's views."

But another former member of the authority, Alan Street, warned: "It's saved £90,000 but it could now be three, four or five times that amount to reinstate it now and it wouldn't become operational again for 12 months."

He added: "I understand Mr Tipping wants to have a view on it but is it in the top three priorities for the force?"

A police spokeswoman said that four of the unit's seven horses had either been retired as pets or gone to sanctuaries, while three had been sent to work for other forces.

The force said an early release from a vehicle hire contract now means the force expects to save £105,000 each year from losing the unit.

She added: "It has been a sad loss for the whole force and was not a decision taken lightly."

What do you think about the review? Contact Chris Breese on chris.breese@nottinghampostgroup.co.uk.

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  • Profile image for mof_gedling

    by mof_gedling

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 10:56PM

    “exactly smshogun now your talking, people dont see the bigger picture,there is a lot of money to be made here, not only would our recycling go up but also i have this vision of our mares razzing round the track at colwick racecourse , bit like where they put pretend jockeys on camels backs only in this case we could have miniature pretend policemen, or just go the whole hog and have real pretend police (CPO'S) riding them.lol, wouldnt that be a spectacle ?
    gosh we would be on the proper news like in america,”

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    by smshogun

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 7:20PM

    “They could always sell the muck to gardeners, and now for bio gas production.”

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    by mof_gedling

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 2:44PM

    “dont forget we are starting afresh,there is nothing to stop us buying some nice horses, i like those Lipizzaner types,perhaps the non existent budget could stretch to a fleet of those ?”

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    by maryofdungloe

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 12:56PM

    “@mof_gedling - the beed of horse the mounted section use are not suitable for dressage. They stand between 16-18 hand high and they aren't the right build to be show horses. A dressage horse are light bones and vey nimble, the same build a gymnast.”

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    by mof_gedling

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 11:55AM

    “one proposal could be to incorporate a dressage routine ,we could reap the costs back by putting on displays all over the world,it could help with angry crowds too, you couldnt stay angry watching the horseys do the foxtrot,
    "sarge they are getting angry out there,should i hose them down with the water cannon ?"
    " no bring on the dancing horses."”

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    by Nick2812

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 11:45AM

    “The force expects to save £105,000 a year because of an early release from a vehicle hire contract.

    £100k a year on vehicles for the mounted unit??? Who negotiated that contract.”

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    by rdc180368

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 11:25AM

    “It tells you that mounted police are an effective means of controlling large crowds who tend to converge all at once... which probably doesn't apply in the case of either rugby or cricket (where there tends to be more of a gradual drift in even after the start of play each day) round here?

    It's a huge mistake to feel that a resource has no value simply because you're not utilising it 100 per cent of the time and because you can't necessarily see the instant benefit of its existence under all circumstances. Police cars stand idle some of the time... where do you stop?... do you want to cut those back drastically too?”

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    by maryofdungloe

    Saturday, December 01 2012, 3:10AM

    “It would be sad to see the mounted section go, but to be fair the horses were only used at football matches to keep tabs on the hooligans every other week. I've lived in West Bridgord for 28 years before moving to Bingham, and not once did i see the horses at any cricket match or rugby match. I think these statistics are telling us something about a particular sport, don't you??

    They don't really do any quote 'proper work' unquote. They are mostly used for shows and other fates and fairs and I guess £90.000 is alot of money to pay for someting which isn't use practically that much anymore.”

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    by rdc180368

    Thursday, November 29 2012, 9:59AM

    “I opposed the introduction of the Police Commissioner posts and remain unconvinced. However, it's abject nonsense of the first poster to describe the mounted police as a "luxury". It was a short-sighted decision to disband them in the future.

    Policing is about maintaining public order as well as physically catching criminals and the horses are an invaluable means of doing that (ask anyone who's ever been to a football match!). I am sure that most Nottinghamshire people will welcome them back with open arms.”

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    by iwilltellit

    Thursday, November 29 2012, 9:28AM

    “The first symbol of 'Law and Order' should be Police in uniform on the street and not Mr Tipping still 'vote catching' on expensive luxuries. A second good symbol would be that of the Chief Constable governing his Officers not a 'Politician' who does not appear to be impartial by virtue of his Labour logo. No time wasting review just get on with the job in hand if it is possible.”

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