“Why do you spend all your time lying, Mr Liar, Liar's World?

If you actually had a case I'm sure you'd argue it.

Instead you lie about the opposition.

He said *repair* the roads, *NOT* widen them.

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And where does "widening" the roads come into it?

The council spends all the motorists money on *NARROWING* the roads:

What is needed is the narrowings removing.

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And, anyway, why can't we continually afford to invest in widening roads ETC all day long?

Motorists are fleeced of approaching £50 *BILLION* a year in *ADDITIONAL* taxes.

Most of which is diverted into general Treasury coffers.

Most of the rest is effectively spent on public transport subsidies (for example rail users fares only cover half the cost of travel, if there weren't any motorists, who would subsidise rail, in fact, would rail be subsidiesd?!).

What little is spent on the roads goes on pavement widenings, road narrowings, bus stop build outs, traffic "calming", etc, etc, etc.

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How can you say the current traffic levels across both our city and the entire country are simply unsustainable, and if we don't try and sort it out there could be very dire consequences?

Real traffic levels in places with congestion are level or falling (see the council boasts about Nottingham!)

Any apparent increase (congestion) is created by narrowing, and even closing roads, creating deliberate bottlenecks (narrowed junctions, built out bus stops, trams), traffic "calming", and the like.

Which has the most traffic? A centre with a certain amount of cars running through it?

Or one with half the number being forced to drive double the distance at half the speed with twice as many stops for four times as long?

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THe facgt that in your view, it is not that there is too little capacity on the roads; there is too much traffic using them just show how biased and blinkered you are.

As I have pointged out several times, as the A6005 multi modal study found:

Only 6% of the traffic on the road wanted to go into the centre:

94% WAS FORCED TO GO THERE TO GET TO THE REST OF NOTTINGHAM, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, AND THE REST OF THE COUNTRY BY THE CITY'S APPALING ROAD "SYSTEM"!!!
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“I entirely agree that we shouldn't run before we can walk, but I think there is a will among the city council for it to go ahead.

Dave, I here this talk about 'why not repair the roads instead' all the time. I think you would be kidding yourself if you think we can continually afford to invest in widening roads ETC all day long. The fact is the current traffic levels across both our city and the entire country are simply unsustainable, and if we don't try and sort it out there could be very dire consequences. In my view, it is not that there is too little capacity on the roads; there is too much traffic using them. We need to invest in public transport.”

“How about doing something for the east side of nottingham. We have nothing this side of the city, could use the old gedling pit line.”

“The tram is very much needed in the constituency but it seems a little premature to be looking at phase three when the Tories are threatening to derail phase 2. It would be good to see Dr Palmer speaking up for the needs of people and businesses in the area. If the tram extension to Beeston does not go ahead the town will be blighted for years to come.”

“Never mind all that Mr Palmer, how about sorting the existing transport network in your constituency. i.e. get the roads repaired, they're little better than cart tracks in places. Get off the tram bandwagon and do something useful - you know it makes sense.”