Nottinghamshire police hunt drinker who poured beer over crying baby then kicked mum

“Help catch this man anyone with info please call the police this behaviour is outrageous of a grown adult, He must be punished for what he has done.”

“I looked up the license on my local pub and it states that children are to be supervised by a responsible adult and must remain within the restaurant area and must vacate the premises by 10pm and they are not allowed in the bar area at any time but I am sad to say this never happens , go into my local and you will see children sat at the bar and seated within the bar area at adult tables parents giving their off spring money for the gaming machines very young children going alone to the toilets and then members of staff having to clean up after them in other words in my local children just run wild and I think the bar staff have given up on telling their parents to calm the kiddies down and behave , I think Greene King ought to get their house in order .”

“it is a 15month old baby!! sometimes babies will cry for no reason! No excuse for a grown man to throw a drink over the child!! a whetherspoons are a family pub but yes they do attract the wrong clientèle who are sat drinking at 1pm but each to their own. Where else could the mother go? Mcdonalds? The place that is blamed for child obesity? Mothers need social time aswell, it is lonely being a mother, and no I am not a 'yummy mummy' I dont have children but I do tolerate them!! If the man didnt, he should of just gone to the greyhound!!!”

“He will be caught, will be convicted.--probably will transpire that he has a history of violence.”

“As a Licensee, I've never had a problem running family friendly Pubs. Without wanting to state the obvious, it more often than not comes down to affective management.

In a well run Pub, families need not worry about drunken idiots - because they're not welcome, and would be quickly removed.

On the other side of the coin, it's perfectly acceptable to ask parents to control their children. Badly behaved kids ruin everyone's experience, including other families.

Many sensible operators have zoning systems in place, where kids aren't allowed. For others, it can be a condition on your licence.

drcrane asks for legislation. There is. It's the 'Protection of Children from Harm'. Part of the 4 licensing objectives.”

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Young children
really should not be running
around squealing and crying in
pubs. Pubs should be strictly
adult-only zones.

Sorry but this attitude of pubs being exclusively for aggressive young men and boring okd men or vice versa....is outdated and not the way forward.
I agree children in pubs is not ideal for everyone but we in this country have to change our drinking patterns. Pubs should be places to enjoy a drink or 2 responsibly and not a den of iniquity where anything goes just because a few blokes cant handle their sherbet. Would you rather be in a child friendly bar o a bar full of frustrated angry men? Here is a clue...in 1 of them your main risk is your eardrums while in the other anything is likely to kick off for the slightest reason and often with no reason at all.
Pubs either need to get up to date and cater for a market that may not drink as much as the alco pop generation but neither will they cause you to spend all your profit on repairing and maintaing the pub after the mindless drunken buffoons trash it day after day.
I have worked in the pub trade for many years and that is my view.”

“by dcrane
"There is, of course, no excuse for what this vile man did but I do think that mothers with young children sometimes lose sight of how annoying and irritating their little darlings can be to others. Young children really should not be running around squealing and crying in pubs. Pubs should be strictly adult-only zones. This mother could have avoided a lot of unpleasantness if she had put her children (instead of herself) first and taken them to Maccy Dees etc instead."

Maccy Dees is not the place all mothers want to take there children or even food they want to feed there children all the time, wetherspoons have a children's menu designed for children not full of all the **** in Maccy Dees.

I guess your one of them people that thinks all fast food are ok for children Maccy Dees,Greggs,Burger King ect ect.”

“Yes I agree that there should be places for adults to go and drink & socialise.
There used to be pool halls,social clubs and pubs had family rooms (lounge) and smoking rooms (adults only).
Unfortunately these have been virtually consigned to history.
The pubs etc have had to become family friendly as there is a huge baby boom and this is where the money is. As long as the kids are gone by 7:30 at the latest it should not be a problem.
I don't think binge drinking is a modern phenomenon at all, Brits (and northern Europeans) have always been binge drinkers. Since the Vikings.”

“Commentking: I just think it's a shame that the places where adults can go for a quiet drink and chat are getting less and less. I don't dislike children but I do think that there is a general assumption now that everyone has to accept everyone elses badly behaved and noisy children at all times and I just don't think that's fair or considerate. Pubs, even so called 'family' ones, can't really be a good environment for small children can they? Does the trend for taking younger and younger children into what should be adult environments perhaps explain the huge problem with binge drinking amongst young people (just a thought)? If the pubs are failing, then surely it can't be right to put children at risk so they can continue in business? Time for some legislation on this maybe?”

“Dcrane, Oh dear where to start?
Please see the comment underneath yours for starters. The days when pubs were just for old men nursing their pint of Shipstones Mild have long long gone. The pubs want (and need) family custom otherwise they are rubble within months.
Children should be if course, as in any restaurant/ venue be supervised at all times. However they do cry, shout etc but then of course so do adults (who have no excuse).
If you don't like kids in your local child friendly pub then go to a pub that isn't. If it's not already rubble or student accommodation.....”