“The mouss, the mouss, the mouss is on fire ! Moooooooooooouuusss.”

“The quotes in this NEP article are all Billy. Some plonkers are still blaming MA for the lack of signings.
In my opinion we desperately need to strengthen the squad.The lack of signings is all down to Billy.
No transfers in the window down to Billy --I accept that some of the transfer failings might be down to MA.
But no loan signings --totally down to Billy. He is admitting that above.So for those of us who can read and understand the written word, the lack of loan signings is Billys decision and nothing to do with ND and MA.
Billy inherited weak squad that gives him the excuse when we lose.
As Dougie, Bulwell wrote yesterday Billy will "create the impression that the odds are constantly stacked against him and anything less than a ten-nil defeat in any given game renders him a football genius ".
Spot on mate.
He is pathetic and if we go down look no further than Billy for the major reason.”

“Dougie, good points, but I keep saying that the sheep are right ¿ bums on seats. What's the point of empty seats? Full houses, more support, better atmosphere, good for promoting the beautiful game, fans think they're getting better value for money, AND when the time comes you can always raise prices and the faithful (exploited tw+ts??) will always pay up. Meanwhile, the sheep suck in new support and probably from areas where we are competing for fan base. Every way a winner!! Good thinking ewe sheep!!”

“Ticket man, The point is Direby have to practically give tickets away to get bums on seats whilst their fans are deluded into thinking they are bigger and better than they are, its a cheap trick played by business people. This type of offer by the way has been operational at Prat park for several seasons. Personally speaking I paid £430 for my Forest season ticket and it was not buy one get one free (BOGOF) as at Direby. Good Morning, YEW REDS!”

“Dougie,why try to manipulate the truth to suit,you use the low figure of £270 for a derby season ticket,whilst using the highest forest price, Forest lowest price is 349. You state that is why Derby get higher crowds,strange that seeing as the offer dont start to next season. Morale of the story is have local buissness/fan owner pay for the privliage.”

“Good comments Steve, I'm afraid Football priced me away from the games many years ago and the fact that I wouldn't pay to see these so-called super-stars turn up in their Lambourghinis and serve a load of dross up and collect their obscene wages up month after month.”

“I've long thought about what would happen if ticket pricing were turned upside down:
season tickets are a premium (you pay for the *privilige* of having a guaranteed same seat for a year)
Matchday tickets are £5 on the day, £10 in advance. £10 ones obviously get you better seats than what's left on matchday.

ignore the logistics of on the day for a moment because there are ways around that - it's not like the old days of having to have a ticket office.

We should have swipe cards that you top up online, at a cash point etc.. they could even store the seat number. not just for season ticket holders but replacing current tickets. charge £5 for the card initially.

all this would increase revenues and attendances. no printing of season tickets or matchday tickets saves money, people would have their 'ticket' always on them and like a credit card it's hard not to use - you'll be tempted to go to games because it's cheaper and easier to get a 'ticket'. family could top it up for birthdays etc etc.

football has to change and come back to the people - this recession could lead to empty stands as people stay home and watch sky. matchday prices are stupid and by july i reckon 25% of people will be seriously thinking about if they can afford a season ticket at all.

old argument has been clubs need the money at the start of the season - maybe true for some, but we don't if ND is still funding it.”

“It's on the sheep daily site that Direby are offering cheap season tickets again for next season. £270 if bought by April and kids 7 years and under go free with an adult purchasing a ticket. So they can buy 4 season tickets for £540, roughly equal to 1 Forest season ticket . I'm not knocking the value for money issue (albeit Direby) just highlighting the real reason Direby get bigger crowds.I'm certain if we sold our season tickets at a quarter of the present price our crowds would increase. I'm Not sure however, if those type of economics are altogether wise going into a financial recession? The moral of this story is " If you have a dodgy team with questionable owners, a poor history, the world's worst record and fickle supporters then you'll have to give the tickets away" YEW REDS!”

“Sorry I meant to say wise words inoff the red, whoops, YEW REDS, 3 points saturday!”

“Wise words Gaffa, I agree that many fans want success now if not sooner and their frustration at still waiting for it after years in the lower divisions will shape their judgement particularly of the owners and the board. The players are doing their bit and most of the fans respect that but when the backroom boys come into the equasion people lose patience.I'm prepared to back Billy until the end of his contract. Any manager needs three seasons to make a difference. Idon't like this success today or sacked tomorrow culture. The great BC was with us nineteen seasons through good and bad and look at how many managers have passed through the City Ground gates since he left. As you say building from the bottom is the best way to ensure stability and success. YEW REDS!”