Notts MPs set to vote for bill that will usher in gay marriage
NOTTS politicians are voting today on whether to allow gay people to marry.
All three Nottingham MPs – Lilian Greenwood, Chris Leslie and Graham Allen – have backed the bill, but nationally the equal marriage bill has caused a rift in the Conservative party.
And the new Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby has reaffirmed his idea of a marriage being between a man and a woman.
Local web designer Nigel Dolman, of Wysall, entered into a civil partnership with Rob Lippitt in July 2011 and said he would like to see greater equality for same-sex couples.
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He added: "It's time for equality – there should be no difference in the way homosexual couples are treated.
"We wanted to get married in a church, but obviously we weren't able to – sometimes I think the Church of England can be stuck in the past when it comes to things like this.
"We obviously love each other – we were together 22 years before deciding to enter a civil partnership – so I don't think it's fair to say that letting same-sex couples get married is undermining the idea of marriage.
"I'm sure we'll look back one day and wonder why it took so long for the law to be passed."
Sherwood MP Mark Spencer, whose constituency includes Hucknall, said he hadn't decided which way to vote.
He added: "I will not be voting against and I might end up abstaining. Government has no place in people's bedrooms and how people choose to live their lives is down to them.
"But there are a lot of people who I am tasked with representing that have concerns about the legislation being proposed and others who support it."
Broxtowe MP Anna Soubry said she would support the plans. She added: "I have been repeatedly reminded that I have a very slim majority and told by many in no uncertain terms they will not vote for me in 2015 if I vote for the bill.
"If I lose in 2015 because of voting in favour of same sex marriage then so be it, but I place principle and belief before any perceived electoral advantage. I believe a young gay person should have the same expectation and right to marriage as their straight sister or brother. I respect the views of those who do not agree with me, I hope they will respect mine."
Rushcliffe MP Ken Clarke has previously said he would vote in favour of the plans, and according to the Coalition for Equal Marriage, Gedling MP Vernon Coaker and Bassetlaw MP John Mann will also be voting for the plans.
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by FormerlyW
Wednesday, February 06 2013, 10:19PM
“"Its been interesting to see many of the numerous poles taken on this issue and most are running in the region of four people opposed to the plans to every one for, what it clearly shows is that an overwhelming majority are opposed to gay marriage." --- smshogun
Meanwhile., back here in the real world:
Ashcroft/Populus? – May 2012. Support 42%, Oppose 31%
ICM/Sunday Telegraph – Mar 2012. Support 45%, Oppose 36%
Populus/Times – Mar 2012. Support 65%, Oppose 27%
ComRes/Independent – Oct 2011. Support 51%, Oppose 34%.
YouGov/Sunday Times – Nov 2012. Support 51%, Oppose 38%
YouGov/Sunday Times – May 2012. Support 51%, Oppose 35%
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One day maybe smshogun will learn that every time he gets caught out inventing another "fact" he just looks more of a buffoon. Then again, if he isn't bright enough to have figured that out by now. he'll probably keep making up ridiculous stories about his imaginary friends.”
by Ted_Notts
Wednesday, February 06 2013, 2:01PM
“Go on, I'll bite. What anti-Muslim statement have I made?”
by roland
Wednesday, February 06 2013, 9:26AM
“Got to get the race angle in guys - have a good go at them muslims eh.
Pathetic.”
by Ted_Notts
Tuesday, February 05 2013, 9:21PM
“Lesta M,
In principle all of those places but, according to Cameron, no one within those faiths will be forced to perform the marriage ceremony. The point is Cameron is promising something he cannot possibly guarantee as the real power is in Europe not in Westminster. I can't see anyone attempting to force Muslims, Jews, Sikhs etc to accept same sex marriages but the Christian Church, especially the C of E is an easy target and so gay activists will concentrate upon them first. It will split that church and probably lead to its downfall. No bad thing, many will say, but it is hardly an even-handed.”
by LestaLM
Tuesday, February 05 2013, 8:41PM
“Does this only apply to CofE places of worship or does it also apply to Catholic churches, mosques, synagogues, gurdwaras, Hindu temples etc ?”
by grammamamma
Tuesday, February 05 2013, 6:26PM
“It is interesting that this push to accept gay marriage occurs at a time when more and more heterosexual couples are choosing to shun marriage and simply live together.”
by roland
Tuesday, February 05 2013, 4:57PM
“Shogun
This issue has nothing to do with the polish .”
by andmikel
Tuesday, February 05 2013, 4:39PM
“The issue is about the word Marriage being used wrongly to describe a union which is not a marriage. Marriage is the joining together of two different categories to produce a third quantity that takes some of thecharacteristics of of the originals. Tin Can be married with copper to form bronze for example. The children of a marriage inherit characteristics from both parents and it is part of the evolutionary process. Marrying same with same does not and cannot achieve such a result as there is no output that is different with a direct blood relationship with both partners. Therefore at least one member of the household is not a true parent. The legal confusions that this will entail concerning inheritance, allegiance and other social niceties and relationships out side the home may become very difficult for the child. Where is the consideration for any children involved?
It is good to see that Nottingham MP's are all equally ignorant of the English language and don't care a damn about society despite the fact that not all are in their dotage. The fallout from this Bill will keep our future parliamentary non-representatives in clover for a long time to come. No major party is fit for purpose on this showing. What benefit will homosexuals gain? Not social acceptance nor respect. They will be tarred as a devious group who are quite content to destroy society in a quest for vengeance despite the assurances that they would accept civil partnership as adequate. This will rumble on for generations. Well done Mr Campbell you are continuing the leveling down that began with comprehensive education.”
by susanfletcher
Tuesday, February 05 2013, 4:33PM
“The Tories won't get my vote at the next election. Prior to the last election David Cameron said he would not back the call for same sex marriage.
God's law is the same today as it was yesterday & will be the same tomorrow.
Homosexuals should not expect the church to change their views just to suit a minority.”
by smshogun
Tuesday, February 05 2013, 4:00PM
“Its been interesting to see many of the numerous poles taken on this issue and most are running in the region of four people opposed to the plans to every one for, what it clearly shows is that an overwhelming majority are opposed to gay marriage.
If we accept many of these pole results then it shows that the Government is not acting in the interests of the majority; an interesting thought.”