“Yes, Mr. Mann, you forgot to specify where you get your facts. Also, I would love to know why you hate railways. I never travel by train, but I don't hate railways.”

“No, Kay, it's not amazed you are.

Do you also think "How can it possibly be the fault of a car driver if he hits someone who should not be crossing the road according to the pedestrians section of the Highway Code and / or the laws on Obstruction of the Highway and / or the laws on crossings when there is a car approaching?" As in the case of most road pedestrian fatalities?

Do you think that road drivers should be able to use the same defence as rail road drivers:

"I was going too fast to stop!"?

As for my facts, I get them from the same place as the anti-car, sorry, pro-rail, sorry, road "safety" lobby.

It's just that they compare apples and pears and compare the numbers of passengers who get killed cocooned in their 100s of tons solid steel and cast iron rail mounted battering rams, that can plough through cars vans and trucks, never mind pedestrians push chairs and prams, without spilling their passengers tea, on eleven thousand miles of rail road with the total of all deaths on hundreds of thousands of miles of road.

Or, at best, they;ll compare the total number of pedestrians killed who were invited onto the tracks at the time, and ignore all those taking short cuts or otherwise on the tracks in breach of the rules.

Strangely, though, they will complain about roads supposedly dividing communities.

But then go on to list all road fatalities, regardless of whether they broke the rules of the road and / or were acting suicidally.

Which reminds me, they will, if pinned down with the actual figures then try to make out that the majority of rail deaths are suicides (not true) and that they don't count (which goes to show how concerned they are with public safety).

Have I missed anything, Kay?”

“I am just amazed at the nonsensical contributions of B.J.Mann. How can it possibly be the fault of a train driver if he hits someone who should not be crossing the line when there is a train approaching? And where does B.J.Mann get his "facts"?”

“The only "correction" this poster is going to make is that you seem to have forgotten to explain why pedestrians and trains can 't co-exist, as they are expected to on the roads.

In fact, why, as on the roads, isn't "Twenty Plenty!" *anywhere* there there is a *CHANCE* that a pedestrian *MIGHT* get onto the rail *ROAD*

After all, if the ordinary roads divide communities, surely we need to do much more to stop the rail roads dividing them even more?

After all, if it saves just one life.”

“A correction. Sorry, I put an e in sadly; before anyone corrects me. Oh dear I am getting like someone else we know and multi posting.”