Firefighters warn of dangers of parked cars after struggling to reach girls in house fire

“Shogun

Will you please refrain from calling everyone who proves you to be wrong as a "liar". It is extremely rude and very unpleasant. I'm sick of having to read it and getting pretty fed up with your quasi legal rubbish on every matter under the sun.

Thank you.”

“What are you wriggling about this time, smshogun? If you had bothered to read the reply from the police that I posted, you will see that it describes exactly the process that local authorities have to follow if they want to ban parking on the pavement, and that "If this is the case, then there will be signs which clearly point out on a particular road where parking on the pavement is specifically prohibited."

So, firstly, clearly they are willing to express a view on the process by which such orders work, and secondly their view flatly contradicts your repeated assertion that "the law clearly states that parking on a grass verge or pavement is illegal unless there is a sign specifically stating you can park on there."

Since anyone is likely to take a clear statement on an official police website over your unsupported assertion, even without taking into consideration your extensive track record of making fanciful claims about the legal process, I'd suggest you provide some evidence to back up your assertion and show that the police are wrong, by stating clearly what law you are referring to, or remain labelled a buffoonish fantasist who is under the bizarre misapprehension that he is demonstrating his intelligence by throwing around such random invented claims, even though they are so regularly shown to be entirely fabricated.”

“Now moving off tack again Formerly, this is not a Police matter as its a civil matter and the Police only work to guidelines in this area, not legislation; legislation which clearly states that its illegal to park on a footpath and is a civil offence, so the Police won't touch it. So we have easily disproved your alleged "official view" as particularly worthless as you could have simply looked up the legislation and found out parking on the pavement is illegal.

As I have previously stated, the law clearly states that parking on a grass verge or pavement is illegal unless there is a sign specifically stating you can park on there.

Soroya:

This is an interesting view, and one shared by many as all new pavements have to conform to the NRSWA which sets the minimum standards for pavement construction. Under the older legislation they had to be constructed to much lower standards which meant carrying pedestrians weight, or anything such as a wheelbarrow or push chair for example. Any vehicle parking on them simply damaged them.
Under the NRSWA pavements are being constructed to take the weight of a vehicle and parking on them wouldn't cause damage unless its a commercial vehicle, and although pavements are being upgraded as they are replaced, the majority are old and built to the old standards.

Many options have been up for discussion, one being a set of specific markings on new pavements which include a limit line which indicate that a car can park on them and how far they can encroach onto the pavement without obstructing it. This suggestion has gained considerable support as it covers all bases, it clearly indicates you can park on a specific pavement and the markings can be applied to all new pavements, or existing pavements constructed to NRSWA requirements.”

“Parking on the pavement is not illegal unless the council have the authority like most boroughs in London have when you get a ticket for even one wheel on the kerb. Some areas have white lines painted along the pavement allowing the near side wheels on and it is also signed.
Around Nottingham the only way you get a ticket is if a person in a wheelchair or pushing a pram cannot get past and then it is causing an obstruction and then the Police can ticket or remove the car.
I would like to see cars that are parked within 10 metres of a junction to be ticketed or towed because I see that as more of a problem, by sometimes stopping large vehicles ie Fire Engine, Dustbin lorries from entering or exiting roads.”

“Yes, Soraya, that's just what the police had to say on the subject in the reference I provided. On the whole, I would rather take their official views on what may or may not be legal over smshogun who frequently pronounces on legal matters yet bizarrely almost never gets anything right.”

“I think as long as folk leave at least 120cm between their car and the wall or post or whatever then that should be that.”

“Formerly, are you living in the 1980s?
Parking was decriminalised in virtually every Authority decades ago. When was the last time you saw a Police traffic warden? well it was back then. It is now a corporate/civil matter for the Council.”

“"If you actually knew anything you would know (believe its 218) states you cannot park on a pavement or grass verge unless signage actually allows it." --- Smshogun

Well, here's my research smshogun. from the police, who know a lot more about what they are talking about than you do: https://http://tinyurl.com/cmwf72d . This clearly states that, unless causing an obstruction or there is a sign specifically forbidding it, parking on the pavement is not illegal.

Now, where is your evidence that contradicts this entirely, and states that parking on the pavement is illegal unless there is a sign *allowing* it?”

“So you are saying that you didn't proclaim that "This is something of a double edged sword as parking partially on the kerb is illegal" at 10:50AM? What a short memory you have, smshogun.”

“But once again if you actually did some research you would actually establish some facts instead of having to lie to try to win an argument, but what's new.

If you actually knew anything you would know (believe its 218) states you cannot park on a pavement or grass verge unless signage actually allows it.”