“Mad Bad muttered:

Unfortunately there are just too many cars on the road nowadays

So who do you think should be banned from the roads, MB?

All those wimmin who've taken up driving in recent years?

Or all those 65 year olds who live in the sticks but don't have a convenient bus (tram) service on their doorstep?

Or how about all those pesky asylum seekers who come over here buying up the cars the "greens" force us to scrap, driving on our roads......!

A few years back we had far less motorway and main road, per head, per acre, per car (and we have fewer cars than many of our "green", supposed rail loving, competitors, pro rata) than not only our competitor countries, but many second world countries, too.

Since then our population has skyrocketted, but we've been *closing* roads.

Is it any wonder congestion is getting worse.

Despite traffic levels *FALLING* on those roads?!?!?!?!”

“Mad badger has his head in the clouds again, actually i work in nottingham, Derby, and many other town centres and out of town centres all over the UK. Why are you so stupid? simplistic and pathetic assumptions, as well as being selfish: ME ME ME.

This allows me, along with many others to make direct comparisons to other towns and cities. Sheffield is a prime example, traffic wardens still work their, employed by the Police, they use their common sense when people are working to develop their city. On many occasions when on site visits, they will issue a headed note with the site or location on which you are working or visiting, other traffic wardens see this and know you are legitimate.
Cameras do not have discretion or common sense, these simply churn out fines to those who have a legitimate, or any other reason for being in a particular location. In areas covered by cameras there have been many instances of people being ticketed, energency doctors, plain Police vehicles, scenes of crime vehicles, and many more.

The realities speak for themselves.”

“Anyone who's tried to drive, or in my case ride, through the city centre knows that cars could no longer be allowed there. Unfortunately there are just too many cars on the road nowadays and the travelling public deserve better than being stuck in cars in a traffic jam. Perhaps Andyman should get a job in Derby, that might save him and us.”

“Well George Orwell got it right, it is a good job I didn't write about the little blue birds that are feeding in our garden. As you will all have guessed the original word had one a and two ss's, very innocuous but not to auto Nanny.”

“Well that was interesting folks I typed in the three letter word used for a small donkey and it got censored. I wonder if the original quote from Dickens will work " then the law is a h'ass Sir"”

“Mad Badger I agree that the last thing we want to see is police being used to chase up parking offenders and other traffic offences. That job is rightly carried out by traffic wardens and the other civilian staff. I do however think that has become more of a drive for cash and less about traffic flow. For people like Andyman there must be some sensible solution arrived at within the law to enable them to carry out their duties. At present the law does appear to remain a bit of an ass.

I also think you should be very careful labelling us all as BNP wingnuts as I am sure I am not alone in being opposed to such racists and fascists as I am the mad socialist dictatorship and the entrenched politicians who are set on destroying the traders in the centre of Nottingham.”

“Why don't the council just put up photo's of Jane Urquhart at all roads leading into town as that would be the ultimate deterent and cheapest option too!lol!”

“Oh noes, what's gonna happen! car drivers will have to park in car park like my parents used to in the 70s. Jesus, some of the people who post on here, like BJ Mann ought to get a life instead of trying to whip up antagonism all of the time. I'd like to know what the right-wing nutjobs who post here want to see; the police freed, from their traffic duties with the aid of new technology, to catch "real" criminals, or the police tied up with chasing people who park illegally or go into an area the LAW says they shouldn't? Which is it, BNP wingnuts?”

“Christmas is coming and the councils coffers will be getting fat, well thats the idea.

Lets go and do the christmas shopping dear, while the kids are at grandma's, we can go into Nottingham and get everything in one go; a pipe dream these days. How do you carry heavy items back to your vehicle when it is several miles away, you go by public transport! sorry sir you cannot bring large items like that onto the tram.

Here is the reality, the limited items allowed to be carried on public transport, and the time allowed to continually return to your vehicle will end such trips to Nottingham.

The reality is that people will go to places such as Meadowhall, or the numerous other out of town centres where they can do their shopping in one day, and park their car in the vicinity of their chosen shops.

Nottingham and its retailers lose again, remember what Oxford did? its happening now in Nottingham and it is being strangled to death.”

“I will not be comming to Nottingham shopping ever again as hardly anywhere to park and I am disabled too but cannot even find any available disabled parking bays”