“Adrian - i agree. The other alternative is he's selling up and waiting for the deal to go through.......!? The clubs actions since May just havent stacked up and surely any sane person looking at the evidence can see.....I think there's more to it all, there has to be!?”

“I reda the daily Mail most days.. in their football pages there is about a third of a page with all the info on who is chasing who and who is signing who etc etc... for the first time since the play offs Nottm Forest are mentioned....
for being charged with the players behaviour against Leeds !!!.. like I posted before a couple of months ago... my opinion only of course !! but ND wants rid of BD.... no signings and BD gets frustrated and resigns OR results go so poorly ND sacks BD brings in A N Other.. few signings in Jan 2011 results turn and ND says we can build on this for 2011/12 promotion push... my opinion only of course !!!!”

“We all need to support the squad we have got, not what we might be getting or can't have. Billy could leave tomorrow along with Doughty and any of the players and leave us completly shafted but it's the club we support not the powers that be that are pulling the strings behind closed doors.....you reds.”

“the season ticket holder discount revocation is a little naughty on the clubs side but from what i understand (and i may be wrong) the club no longer own the club shop. hence the reason for the dicount revocation.

anyway some supporters are annoyed that they'll lose out on 20 quids worth of discount, but still expect the chairman to inject cash.

i know you have a right to vent your anger the same as the rest but there comes a time when it's just drivel pouring from your selfish mouth.

i want to see premiership football at the city ground!
do you not think that (as the current costs of football are) that will not incur another price hike for tickets? it's £28 quid a match now. the point is football is none of the working class people's business nowadays, just look at the situation liverpool find themselves in. if they cannot get finance in place pretty soon then they will be acquired by the royal bank of scotland which rather ironically, would mean liverppol would be owned by the tax payer (well about 70%).

i wonder what would happen then?”

“percy and rob are pretty close to spot on.

rules ae being discussed to bring about a fluid cap on what clubs can spend. i hear that this will be llinked rigidly to the clubs income and debt must be cleared from the clubs yearly income. now this is bad bad news for most clubs. the 25 man squad is just the tip of the iceburg.

let's be clear the f.a's main responsibility is to the game and they have finally realised that the current affairs are unsustainable.

i'm sure some of you will remember the days when players lived on the same street as you and me. now we'll never see those days again but a serious reduction in costs is needed if clubs like ourselves ever hope to bring in crowds of 50,000.

anyway, my point is that football is in a transitional period right now and risking our future now could cost the fans the most. i must also add that fans are the life blood to all clubs but we are all ill informed opinionated gobsh1tes. aren't we, honestly. my two pence is worth more than yours, etc. i don't mind admitting it. i could run the club better than anyone else. (this is not sarcasm, it's self belief, we all have it but) none of us have the money to put forest where they are now, so unfortunately for me i'll have to continue being a gobsh1te, who thinks he knows better and could do better. well until i win the lottery.
u reds”

“Like the optimism Rob.

Worriedred - I personally think the Club shop is really nice and possibly a smart investment. Seriously, think hard, other than saving £4.20 on a new shirt, would you have really used your discount?

Think back to the Leeds game, when have you ever seen the club shop that busy, that full with queues that long, baring in mind it's 200% bigger now!

I think within a couple of seasons, we'd have paid back for the clubshop by buying the new merchendise, either on nottinghamforestdirect.com or in store. New £40 home and away shirts each season (actually nice this year) and clever deals with KitBag show that Nigel has a business brain if not a transfering players one.

Plus have you ever though, when you put a £6k loft convertion on your house, the price of the house goes up by about £15k - If, well, when and hopefully sonn, Doughty sells up, the club shop will be paid for there and then. Stop wittling, your precious 10% home season ticket or 15% away membership discount will be back soon enough - little less worriedred?”

“Worriedred - So as far as I can read, you are just unhappy that the club has taken away your discount. I can't understand your argument. Just because we haven't signed anybody yet (there's still 13 days left to go!), then apparently that means ND lacks ambition. Com'on, get a grip will you and grow up. Obviously you'd prefer to risk the club over it.”

“Our chairman is amazing, he's given us a new club shop and taken away my discount.that's gratitude for spendn £500. I know what I'd rather have.....players! No one backing ND makes sense, the proof is In the pudding guys! The only saving grace I can take is that he's selling up and waiting for the deal to go through,otherwise it's going to be a long season of seeing players go left right and centre apart from to us! Must be in his big plan so hey let's back lol”

“Well written Rob. Some common sense at last.”

“I'd just like to say thank you to the realists that have posted on here.

People need to wise up to the real world here and stop having a go at the club, the chairman and the acquisitions panel.

The chairman is supporting us with his money. I'm sure if asked, he would honestly tell you how much money he has put into the club and how much he has taken out of it. Many chairman put money into a club and mark it as debt to the club, for example, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid and for those who prefer to look in our division, Middlesbrough, Pompy, Cardiff to name but a handful. ND hasn't done this because he's a Forest fan through and through.

If he had no ambition, he would have sold the club on promotion to the championship and not spent the money he did on raddy, Dex, Gunter, Earnshaw etc. He wants to bring in players which will better our squad and who want to play for us. Not some money grabbing average player costing £2 million + wages just to give us depth.

Why the urgency to get into the prem? We need to build and spend carefully and have a team which has a chance of survival in the Prem with a few solid additions. Why? Because the likes of Middlesbrough, Portsmouth, Leeds Newcastle etc all spent big in the prem and where have the ended up? Oh that's right, exactly where we are right now, same division with the same chance over 46 games to attain promotion.

We need to look at the model built by West Brom and copy that. To bring the club back to where it should be requires years of careful spending, planning and building of your team and club. Being a yo-yo club gives the sort of income required to get the players slowly but surely to make a decent effort of survival.

The club needs to spend within it's means. I respect our chairman 100%. I'd hate him to gamble the club on attaining promotion, loose and then end up with another Munto Finance on our hands who will take the club for every penny it's worth.

ND has his head screwed on. Believe in him. Enjoy the football-its what you pay to see, if you don't like it then go elsewhere and be entertained at the
Cinema or something instead and then moan about how bad the film is and how you want a refund.

To all you non believers out there, remember reading this in a few years time when you see the man city bubble bust and see how thy cope with trying to sustain a 500k a week wages for ibrahimavic.”