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Ambulance service shake-up 'will put lives at risk' in Nottinghamshire

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012
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CONTROVERSIAL plans to close nearly every ambulance station in Notts could cost lives, it has been claimed.

East Midlands Ambulance Service (EMAS) plans to close 12 of the 13 stations and replace them with two – one in Nottingham and one in Mansfield. Ambulances will then be stationed at 22 strategic standby points to wait for calls to come in.

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Unison, the union representing paramedics, has raised fears over the plans. Regional organiser Corall Jenkins said: "Patients will suffer. The plans are flawed." She added that the move had "potential to cost lives."

EMAS says its existing stations are in need of major improvements.

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Phil Milligan, EMAS chief executive, said he also expects the plan to cut the time it takes for ambulances to reach an emergency. EMAS has missed its emergency response time target consistently for the past two years.

It is hoped EMAS will raise £29.8 million by selling off its stations in the East Midlands.

It will then spend £28.7 million on building 13 "super-stations". One super station will be created at the current King's Mill site in Mansfield.

The other will be in the centre of Nottingham. The Post can reveal that the ambulance service has been in talks with the fire service about taking over a site together off London Road.

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  • Profile image for Doraymee

    by Doraymee

    Tuesday, August 07 2012, 2:06PM

    “This article states......'The ambulance service wants to build a super-station in Nottingham city....... whatever for, perhaps EMAS would like to tell us why?

    Why would you want to build a station in THE CITY CENTRE???
    If this is how the EMAS 'Executive' are thinking, then maybe we need a change in the 'executive'.
    City centre locations will not only cost a fortune, they tend to have the most traffic, thereby impacting upon the very problem EMAS has struggled with for the last.........years.........Provision of PERFORMANCE. ACHIEVING TARGETS.Being on time, MOST OF THE TIME!!!!
    What is the problem with their site on Beechdale Road, does anyone know?”

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    by NFFCultra

    Sunday, July 22 2012, 11:43AM

    “Indeed FormerlyW. While we are about it lets dispel some other myths. Ambulance stations are buildings and buildings do not respond to 999 calls. Nor do the public go to ambulance stations for treatment (there would likely not be anyone there anyway). Ambulance stations are where vehicles are parked when NOT in use. 999 calls are not received at your "local" ambulance station, they are taken at a central control room from where the nearest ambulance will be sent.

    All standby points have to be risk assessed before they can be used and must have facilities for crews such as toilet and drinks facilities.

    What is clear is that the number of emergency calls taken by all ambulance services is increasing year on year and the establishment is not increasing (possibly shrinking) to match that rise. As a result crews have more jobs to go to during their shift than ever before.”

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    by FormerlyW

    Saturday, July 21 2012, 9:49PM

    “Thanks NFFCultra. So, to sum up, smshogun has a basic lack of understanding in statistics, being unable to distinguish between 29% of crews being assaulted and an increase in assaults of 29%, and in any case it has nothing at all to do with this proposed new way of working. Why am I not surprised?”

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    by edmundirvine

    Saturday, July 21 2012, 4:33PM

    “Mr Shogun

    Firstly I am sorry but I'm struggling to find any credibility in any of your claims - and you've made quite a few but not been able to back any of them up. When challenged you become extremely defensive and I have not seen you once admit that you are wrong - you just blindly defend the indefencible.

    However, what I find really offensive about you is that you always resort to insulting people - calling people names and accusing them of being a "liar" is a really nasty trait. You then try and accuse and blame others for the name calling.

    You really are a nasty little individual and I have to agree with others in concluding that you are nothing but a fantasist.”

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    by NFFCultra

    Saturday, July 21 2012, 12:53PM

    “BBC reported a 29% increase in attacks on crews (http://tinyurl.com/c7782xt) between 2008 and 2010. These are when a crew are with a patient and NOT at a standby point. The model of super hubs and standby points was introduced by the former Staffordshire ambulance service some years ago and made them the best performing service in the country at the time.”

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    by FormerlyW

    Saturday, July 21 2012, 10:52AM

    “So, who did publish "the official figures showing 29% of ambulance crews being attacked in the last year alone"? Or did you make that one up, too? (the 29% is a nice touch if you did make it up -- a non-round-number makes it sound more credible).”

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    by FormerlyW

    Saturday, July 21 2012, 10:50AM

    “It remains as simple as aver, smshogun: post a link or give a verifiable reference for these "official figures," and have your claim instantly vindicated and actually take a step toward proving your point; follow your usual route of making claims and being completely unable to support them with any documented source, and remain branded a silly fantasist.”

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    by smshogun

    Saturday, July 21 2012, 2:29AM

    “Still telling the lies Formerly, yes, playing to the gallery is a tactic most people already see through.

    Are these invented facts the one's you tried so desperately hard to disprove, and failed miserably because they are actually true, then you resorted to lying to try to win an argument, just like your own opinions you attempt to portray as facts, but they are still just your often warped opinions. Being the fantasist and proven liar you are is further compounded when you can search for facts when it suits you, but when it doesn't, suddenly you can't. This is interesting when you're the one continually posting official figures, but suddenly can't find them in this, and many other instances.

    Much like the tactic of continually raising the issue of me talking to one of my neighbours, whats it got to do with the issue, unless of course your neighbours don't speak to you because you're such an obsidious individual, then who could blame them.”

  • Profile image for FormerlyW

    by FormerlyW

    Friday, July 20 2012, 8:41PM

    “""How about the official figures showing 29% of ambulance crews being attacked in the last year alone." --- smshogun

    How about them, smshogun? Given your track record of inventing data to "prove" your argument, perhaps you should provide a source, or remain branded a silly fantasist.

    And then if ever you manage to do that (which seems unlikely), perhaps you could then find the data showing that this is connected in any way with them being stationed at smaller outposts, when most assaults happen at the point where they are dealing with someone (usually drunk or high) on a call-out.

    And finally perhaps you could show where such a link has been reported.

    As usual, I am not holding my breath, just laughing occasionally at your ridiculous fantasy life.”

  • Profile image for FormerlyW

    by FormerlyW

    Friday, July 20 2012, 8:26PM

    “Ah yes, the old "for your own good you should search for the evidence yourself" trick. Might have some chance of fooling somebodyif you hadn't already used it so often.”

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